Proud to be American?

CBI · Post by **CBI** » 01 Apr 2003 15:33

Forty-eight more civilians, including women and children, have been killed and 310 wounded in US-British bombings around this town south of Baghdad in the last 24 hours, a hospital director revealed.

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/030401/1/39o1f.html

CBI · Post by **CBI** » 03 Apr 2003 14:27

The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) is reporting high numbers of civilian casualties throughout Iraq.
ICRC spokesman in Baghdad Roland Huguenen-Benjamin says an average of 100 civilian casualties a day are being recorded at hospitals in the capital.

Mr Benjamin says he and his staff have also been shocked by the numbers of dead and injured in a hospital in the town of Hila, 100 kilometres south of Iraq.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s823972.htm

http://www.iraqbodycount.net/bodycount.htm

DanielMa · Post by **DanielMa** » 03 Apr 2003 15:06

Бедные люди.

Единственный к вам вопрос, почему вы возмущаетесь только когда американцы убивают мирных людей?

VladDod · Post by **VladDod** » 03 Apr 2003 15:17

DanielMa wrote:Бедные люди. ... Единственный к вам вопрос, ..

К вам???

Это к кому? Вы уж какнить конкретнее плииз .. :pain1:

DanielMa · Post by **DanielMa** » 03 Apr 2003 15:23

VladDod wrote:
DanielMa wrote:Бедные люди. ... Единственный к вам вопрос, ..

К вам??? Это к кому? Вы уж какнить конкретнее плииз ..

Вопрос был к СBI. Ну и вы можете ответить тоже если хочется.

CBI · Post by **CBI** » 03 Apr 2003 15:23

DanielMa wrote:Бедные люди.

Единственный к вам вопрос, почему вы возмущаетесь только когда американцы убивают мирных людей?

Потому что Я живу в Америке.

DanielMa · Post by **DanielMa** » 03 Apr 2003 15:26

CBI wrote:
Потому что Я живу в Америке.

Ну так это же довольно легко поправить. Если вы не будете жить в Америке, вы тоже будете возмущаться когда Американцы убивают мирных жителей и разводить руками когда любая другая страна убивает жителей?

CBI · Post by **CBI** » 03 Apr 2003 15:28

DanielMa wrote:
CBI wrote:
Потому что Я живу в Америке.

Ну так это же довольно легко поправить. Если вы не будете жить в Америке, вы тоже будете возмущаться когда Американцы убивают мирных жителей и разводить руками когда любая другая страна убивает жителей?

Да, Я буду возмущаться когда на мои деньги убивают невинных людей.

Ctrl-C · Post by **Ctrl-C** » 03 Apr 2003 15:42

DanielMa, а что, нынче еще какая-то страна на другую напала? Как только нападет, мы тут же дружно начнем возмущаться ее преступлениями тоже!

DanielMa · Post by **DanielMa** » 03 Apr 2003 15:52

CBI wrote:
DanielMa wrote:
CBI wrote:
Потому что Я живу в Америке.

Ну так это же довольно легко поправить. Если вы не будете жить в Америке, вы тоже будете возмущаться когда Американцы убивают мирных жителей и разводить руками когда любая другая страна убивает жителей?

Да, Я буду возмущаться когда на мои деньги убивают невинных людей.

Что, только в деньгах дело? Не волнуйтесь, вы получите Return on you Investment.

DanielMa · Post by **DanielMa** » 03 Apr 2003 15:53

Ctrl-C wrote:DanielMa, а что, нынче еще какая-то страна на другую напала? Как только нападет, мы тут же дружно начнем возмущаться ее преступлениями тоже!

Не обязательно нападать на другую страну чтобы убивать людей. Можно и у себя дома их убивать.

CBI · Post by **CBI** » 03 Apr 2003 16:06

DanielMa wrote:
Не волнуйтесь, вы получите Return on you Investment.

Так значит есть причины гордится что ты американец? (См. заголовок)

DanielMa · Post by **DanielMa** » 03 Apr 2003 16:20

CBI wrote:
DanielMa wrote:
Не волнуйтесь, вы получите Return on you Investment.

Так значит есть причины гордится что ты американец? (См. заголовок)

Причины есть. Приведенные вами ссылки не являються причинами для гордости.

Ctrl-C · Post by **Ctrl-C** » 03 Apr 2003 16:31

DanielMa wrote:Не обязательно нападать на другую страну чтобы убивать людей. Можно и у себя дома их убивать.

Не знаю, не пробовал. Но поверю вам на слово.

CBI · Post by **CBI** » 03 Apr 2003 16:45

Madonna's video, while it will not be shown directly in the United States, has already been released on a number of European television channels, and is accessible on the Internet.

Musicians are not alone in finding themselves in the eye of the hurricane for having come out publicly against the war in Iraq.

US actress Susan Sarandon, a well-known political activist, was recently told she would not be appearing as scheduled at a charity function in Florida on fears it could cause divisions in the community.

Dustin Hoffman, who was outspoken about the war during an appearance at an event in Berlin, later canceled a pacifist speech he was due to make in Los Angeles after receiving emails of protest and threatening phone calls.

And actor Martin Sheen, who plays a US president in the television series "The West Wing," was lambasted for the anti-war stance he took, as viewers asked the NBC television network to fire him.

Before the start of the war, Sheen launched a commercial asking for more time for UN weapons inspectors: "Let's give the inspections more time, because they work."

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/030403/1/39qcl.html

CBI · Post by **CBI** » 03 Apr 2003 16:46

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CBI · Post by **CBI** » 03 Apr 2003 16:47

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CBI · Post by **CBI** » 04 Apr 2003 15:51

Canadian Press

OTTAWA — Red Cross doctors who visited southern Iraq this week saw "incredible" levels of civilian casualties including a truckload of dismembered women and children, a spokesman said Thursday from Baghdad.

Roland Huguenin, one of six International Red Cross workers in the Iraqi capital, said doctors were horrified by the casualties they found in the hospital in Hilla, about 160 kilometres south of Baghdad.

"There has been an incredible number of casualties with very, very serious wounds in the region of Hilla," Huguenin said in a interview by satellite telephone.

"We saw that a truck was delivering dozens of totally dismembered dead bodies of women and children. It was an awful sight. It was really very difficult to believe this was happening."

Huguenin said the dead and injured in Hilla came from the village of Nasiriyah, where there has been heavy fighting between American troops and Iraqi soldiers, and appeared to be the result of "bombs, projectiles."

"At this stage we cannot comment on the nature of what happened exactly at that place . . . but it was definitely a different pattern from what we had seen in Basra or Baghdad.

"There will be investigations I am sure."

Baghdad and Basra are coping relatively well with the flow of wounded, said Huguenin, estimating that Baghdad hospitals have been getting about 100 wounded a day.

Most of the wounded in the two large cities have suffered superficial shrapnel wounds, with only about 15 per cent requiring internal surgery, he said.

But the pattern in Hilla was completely different.

"In the case of Hilla, everybody had very serious wounds and many, many of them small kids and women. We had small toddlers of two or three years of age who had lost their legs, their arms. We have called this a horror."

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1049413227648_10/?hub=SpecialEvent3

http://www.iraqbodycount.net/bodycount.htm

CBI · Post by **CBI** » 04 Apr 2003 17:02

Bush Popularity Increases Though Public Expects Difficult Days Ahead
A growing majority of Americans now believe the war in Iraq is going well for the United States as recent gains on the battlefield have eased public concerns at least for the moment that the war will be long and costly for the allies, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

More than nine out of 10 Americans believe the United States and its allies have been successful, with nearly half-47 percent-saying the conflict is going "very well," up 13 percentage points in a week.

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President Bush's overall job approval rating continues to rise and now stands at 71 percent, its highest level since late last summer. A majority of Americans-54 percent-strongly approve of the job Bush is doing as president, up 16 points in a month and higher than at any time in more than a year.

The poll also found that a growing majority of the public believes it is unnecessary for U.S. and allied forces to discover chemical or biological weapons in order to justify the decision to go to war.

More than two-thirds of those interviewed-69 percent-now say that the war was justified even if the United States fails to turn up biological or chemical weapons, up from 53 percent in a survey taken the day after the war started.

more…

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A26523-2003Apr4.html

Joe Blow · Post by **Joe Blow** » 04 Apr 2003 17:51

Your question really has nothing to do with your posts, besides, you personally have a choice not to be an American, unlike Ms.Sarandon, for example. So your question really falls flat.

CBI · Post by **CBI** » 04 Apr 2003 18:16

Joe Blow wrote:Your question really has nothing to do with your posts, besides, you personally have a choice not to be an American, unlike Ms.Sarandon, for example. So your question really falls flat.

But if someone has a choice, it makes even more sense to ask this question, does not it?

Joe Blow · Post by **Joe Blow** » 04 Apr 2003 18:53

Yeah, sure, become someone else, then ask questions. You may disagree with political leadership or whatever, but this is your country, right or wrong. Being American has nothing to do with it. It was your own will to become an American and now, if you don’t like this country, you are free to leave.

CBI · Post by **CBI** » 04 Apr 2003 19:17

Joe Blow wrote:Yeah, sure, become someone else, then ask questions. You may disagree with political leadership or whatever, but this is your country, right or wrong. Being American has nothing to do with it. It was your own will to become an American and now, if you don’t like this country, you are free to leave.

There are many definitions of who Americans are and many different types of Americans. Some Americans may ask themselves this question from time to time.

What made you think I became an American, let alone your definition of an American?

Joe Blow · Post by **Joe Blow** » 04 Apr 2003 19:37

As far as our Government is concerned, once one raises the hand and swears to protect the Constitution, one is an American.

I believe, you are talking about collateral damage. My heart goes out to these people, but the blame is clearly on Saddam for not stepping down when he was asked. I am sure every effort is being made to prevent these occurrences, but it is in no way affect anyone’s pride.

VladDod · Post by **VladDod** » 04 Apr 2003 19:44

Интересно ... я один, кто английский на Привете пролистывает не глядя? :roll:

Или еще есть? :pain1:

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