Alkiev wrote:Убытки Диснею грозили из-за обещанного бойкота со стороны консерваторов, а именно у них, как известно, много детишек - основных потребителей продукции компании
Эйзнера к Худоровскому (т.е. в тюрьму), ну а Disney Land переименуем в Free Land (что бы уж зря не бойкотировать)
Так я извиняюсь, консерваторам можно бойкотировать компанию, если она выпустит оскорбительный для них фильм или нельзя?
Один из главных принципов свободы слова, если я не ошибаюсь заключается в том, что говорить ты можешь чего вздумается (если это не нарушает закон), но все остальные имеют право тебя не слушать
"Никаких крыльев нет. Просто умираешь и все."
(С) гусеница.
Убытки Диснею грозили из-за обещанного бойкота со стороны консерваторов, а именно у них, как известно, много детишек - основных потребителей продукции компании
Ха-ха. WASPы как один встали грудью на защиту родного президента, и детишкам верную дорогу указали! Правильно, ради полной победы консерв-ной идеологии не грех и пострадать.
Убытки Диснею грозили из-за обещанного бойкота со стороны консерваторов, а именно у них, как известно, много детишек - основных потребителей продукции компании
Ха-ха. WASPы как один встали грудью на защиту родного президента, и детишкам верную дорогу указали! Правильно, ради полной победы консерв-ной идеологии не грех и пострадать.
Так я извиняюсь, право у консерваторов такое есть или они обязаны делать только то, что либералы одобряют?
"Никаких крыльев нет. Просто умираешь и все."
(С) гусеница.
Alkiev wrote:Убытки Диснею грозили из-за обещанного бойкота со стороны консерваторов, а именно у них, как известно, много детишек - основных потребителей продукции компании
Ага.. Бойкот.. Десяток упертых один раз не сводили бы детей в кино - большего им дети не позволили бы. Вот и весь бойкот..Не смешите.
The Passion of The Christ помнится тоже кое-кто бойкотировать собирался...
One small step for me ...One giant leap for.. A frog?
Alkiev wrote:Убытки Диснею грозили из-за обещанного бойкота со стороны консерваторов, а именно у них, как известно, много детишек - основных потребителей продукции компании
Ага.. Бойкот.. Десяток упертых один раз не сводили бы детей в кино - большего им дети не позволили бы. Вот и весь бойкот..Не смешите.
Еще раз. Оставляя в стороне консерваторов, которым дети чего-то там не позволили бы в количестве одного десятка человек.
Право такое есть или нет? Или в этой стране громко выражать свой протест позволяется только либералам?
"Никаких крыльев нет. Просто умираешь и все."
(С) гусеница.
Алкиев тут писал про права бойкотировать компании. Это назыавется red herring - уводить в сторону. Права бойкотировать мало что имеют общего с реальным причинами само-цензуры компании Диснея.
Династия Бушей решает кто платит налоги, и кто не платит. И использует это для цензуры в стране.
New York Times wrote:Mr. Moore's agent, Ari Emanuel, said Michael D. Eisner, Disney's chief executive, asked him last spring to pull out of the deal with Miramax. Mr. Emanuel said Mr. Eisner expressed particular concern that it would endanger tax breaks Disney receives for its theme park, hotels and other ventures in Florida, where Mr. Bush's brother, Jeb, is governor.
"Michael Eisner asked me not to sell this movie to Harvey Weinstein; that doesn't mean I listened to him," Mr. Emanuel said. "He definitely indicated there were tax incentives he was getting for the Disney corporation and that's why he didn't want me to sell it to Miramax. He didn't want a Disney company involved."
CBI wrote:Алкиев тут писал про права бойкотировать компании. Это назыавется red herring - уводить в сторону. Права бойкотировать мало что имеют общего с реальным причинами само-цензуры компании Диснея. Династия Бушей решает кто платит налоги, и кто не платит. И использует это для цензуры в стране.
Это Ваше личное дело верить ли господину "Mr. Moore's agent, Ari Emanuel" в то время, как "Disney executives deny that accusation, though they said their displeasure over the deal was made clear to Miramax and Mr. Emanuel"
Точно так же, как мое личное дело считать мистера Мура подлым брехуном
Мне кажется вполне естественным, что компании не слишком хочется прокатывать фильм по отношению к которому существуюет огранизованная оппозиция, готовая не просто бойкотировать но и пикетировать кинотеатры, в которых он мог бы показываться. Это действительно грозит убытками.
"Никаких крыльев нет. Просто умираешь и все."
(С) гусеница.
So what is the real reason it won't distribute Moore's movie? The explanation that Moore's agent said he was offered by Eisner-- that Disney was afraid of losing tax breaks from Florida Gov. Jeb Bush-- is more persuasive than Eisner's obviously false public rationale. But more relevant may be Disney's financial involvement with a member of the same Saudi family whose connections to the Bush dynasty are investigated by Moore. Prince Al-Walid bin Talal, a billionaire investor who is a grandson of Saudi Arabia's King Fahd, became a major investor in Disney's Eurodisney theme park when it was in financial trouble, and may be asked to bail out the troubled project again.
Controversial director Michael Moore may have found a distributor for his new documentary Fahrenheit 9/11 despite Disney banning Miramax from releasing it - the Weinstein brothers themselves. According to American newspaper New York Daily News, Miramax owners Harvey and Bob Weinstein may buy the film as individuals. Last week the Dude, Where's My Country? author announced Disney had forbidden Miramax from distributing Fahrenheit 9/11, which criticizes American President George W Bush's dealings before the Iraq war and links his political family to that of terror chief Osama Bin Laden. The film is set to premiere at the Cannes Film Festival this month and has secured a contract with Optimum Releasing to be distributed in the UK. A source told the New York Daily News the [Weinsteins could buy the film and sell the distribution rights to another company. The source says, "There's a precedent for that - they did that with Kids and Dogma." Miramax spokesman Matthew Hiltzik denies the film is unpatriotic, explaining, "It's very respectful of the troops."
Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11 is without doubt the most flaming-hot ticket at the Cannes film festival. And with good reason: Moore hopes that it will bring down the US government.
The American film-maker has hitherto kept a tight lid on the contents of the documentary, saying only that it includes evidence of alleged links between the Bush and Bin Laden families. However, in two appearances in Cannes at the weekend before its premiere today, he revealed that the movie contains shocking footage from Iraq.
Yesterday he said: "When you see the movie you will see things you have never seen before, you will learn things you have never known before. Half the movie is about Iraq - we were able to get film crews embedded with American troops without them knowing that it was Michael Moore. They are totally fucked."
On Saturday he said: "The film is only partly to do with the Bin Ladens and Bush. I was able to send three different freelance film crews to Iraq. Soldiers had written to me to express their disillusionment with the war. It's a case of our own troops not being in support of their commander-in-chief."
He said that at the few low-key preview screenings that have already taken place in the midwest "the reactions were overwhelming. People who were on the fence - undecided voters - suddenly weren't on the fence any more."
Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11 is without doubt the most flaming-hot ticket at the Cannes film festival. And with good reason: Moore hopes that it will bring down the US government...
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Well..
BBC wrote:'Not shocked'
Film critic Derek Malcolm gave his verdict on the film to News Online, saying: "I think it's over-long and quite boring in parts but it is strong in other sections.
"It is a more even-handed offering than Moore's previous films. But one is not very shocked by the film. It certainly won't win [John] Kerry the [US] election."
20 mins standing ovation for FAHRENHEIT 9-11, yelling, screaming, cheering... 'This is the longest standing ovation in the history of the festival! Unbelievable!' declared Cannes stalwart Thierry Fremaux.
MaxSt.
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
А что еше ожидат? Если бы Мур показал язык портрету Буша и сказал "Bush? .. well, he is an idiot" (C), то фанаты бы вынесли его на руках.. Ето же так модно сеичас...
BBC wrote:There is highly selective editing, but the story is not totally one-sided. For example, there are soldiers in Iraq who believe in their mission, as well as those who say they are disillusioned. But the movie's conclusions - true or otherwise - and highly emotional interviews with bereaved parents and injured soldiers will have a big impact on audiences around the world
One year after we wiped the face of the Saddam statue with our American flag before yanking him down, it is now too dangerous for a single media person to go to that square in Baghdad and file a report on the wonderful one-year anniversary celebration. Of course, there is no celebration, and those brave blow-dried "embeds" can't even leave the safety of the fort in downtown Baghdad. They never actually SEE what is taking place across Iraq (most of the pictures we see on TV are shot by Arab media and some Europeans). When you watch a report "from Iraq" what you are getting is the press release handed out by the U.S. occupation force and repeated to you as "news."
Господа проамериканские пропагандисты, не поленитесь объяснить и оправдать подобное поведение ваших хозяев.
CNN wrote:Miramax bosses Harvey and Bob Weinstein are working to buy back the film and find another distributor.
Outside the Cannes theater after the first "Fahrenheit 9/11" screenings, reporters asked Harvey Weinstein if the film would be released in the United States. Weinstein responded, "Have I ever let you down?"
CANNES, France -- American filmmaker Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11," a scathing indictment of White House actions after the Sept. 11 attacks, won the top prize Saturday at the Cannes Film Festival.
"Fahrenheit 9/11" is the first documentary to win Cannes' prestigious Palme d'Or since Jacques Cousteau's "The Silent World" in 1956.
"What have you done? I'm completely overwhelmed by this. Merci," Moore said after getting a standing ovation from the Cannes crowd.