Особенности спроса на Ph.D. in Business

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Добрый день!
Созрел следующие вопрос. Выпускникам каких специализаций Ph.D. in Business проще всего найти работу в академии при прочих равных?
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олег2004 wrote:Добрый день!
Созрел следующие вопрос. Выпускникам каких специализаций Ph.D. in Business проще всего найти работу в академии при прочих равных?


The best bet is "well-defined" areas. For example, almost any business school has finance, accounting, marketing, management and operations departments. Other specializations become trickier. For example, few schools have information systems departments or decision processes departments. Hence, demand for IS and DP majors is volatile.
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snetesin wrote:
The best bet is "well-defined" areas. For example, almost any business school has finance, accounting, marketing, management and operations departments.


А среди данных основных специальностей, на что самый большой спрос на рынке труда?
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If the number of candidates per hiring slot is the adequate measure of demand, it is probably about the same. In terms of salaries accounting/finance leads.
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а как вообще PhD in business называется? так и называется PhD in Business? :pain1:
Бизнес очень расчиренное понятие, а , по-моему тонкая специализация, там же над определенным проэктом работать нужно.
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kuznechik wrote:а как вообще PhD in business называется? так и называется PhD in Business? :pain1:
Бизнес очень расчиренное понятие, а , по-моему тонкая специализация, там же над определенным проэктом работать нужно.


PhD in Finance, PhD in Marketing etc.
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snetesin wrote:
kuznechik wrote:а как вообще PhD in business называется? так и называется PhD in Business? :pain1:
Бизнес очень расчиренное понятие, а , по-моему тонкая специализация, там же над определенным проэктом работать нужно.


PhD in Finance, PhD in Marketing etc.

Ну конечно же! нет такого понятия как PhD in Business.
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snetesin,

How much more difficult is it to get into a Wharton PhD program than into its MBA program?

From what I understand the requirements for the two are very very different. While MBA admission requirements stress work experience heavily, PhD cares about academic experience only.

While this makes sense, how do PhD students interact with MBA students? I mean they have to be taking courses together, right? Right now it seems to me that your PhD students are sort of isolated from MBAs.

Also, can someone with only a BS degree and not much academic experience get into a Wharton PhD program? From FAQ on their website this seems tough if not impossible.

thanks.
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ts wrote:snetesin,

How much more difficult is it to get into a Wharton PhD program than into its MBA program?

From what I understand the requirements for the two are very very different. While MBA admission requirements stress work experience heavily, PhD cares about academic experience only.

While this makes sense, how do PhD students interact with MBA students? I mean they have to be taking courses together, right? Right now it seems to me that your PhD students are sort of isolated from MBAs.

Also, can someone with only a BS degree and not much academic experience get into a Wharton PhD program? From FAQ on their website this seems tough if not impossible.

thanks.


Admission rate is about 10% for MBAs and 3-5% for PhDs. Since requirements are very different, it makes it easier for some people to get into PhD program than into MBA program and vice versa. PhD student do TA work for MBA courses (conduct office hours etc). There are very few courses that both PhDs and MBAs take (sometimes none). It is possible to get in with BS and no academic experience but chances are very low.
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snetesin wrote: It is possible to get in with BS and no academic experience but chances are very low.


What do you mean by academic experience?
If I have several years of teaching experience at a University in Russia and a Ph.D. degree in the same field, will it significantly increase my chances of being admitted?
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Yes, some publications would be more valuable though.
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snetesin wrote:Yes, some publications would be more valuable though.


Неужто американские профессора просматривают публикации в среднесортных российских журналах? А в настоящие журналы, так кто же туда пустит. Как говорится "съест то он съест, да кто же ему даст".

Вопрос: если иметь несколько публикаций во второсортных журналах + штук 10-15 вузовских конференций в РФ, это поднимет шансы на поступление?
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олег2004 wrote:
snetesin wrote:Yes, some publications would be more valuable though.


Неужто американские профессора просматривают публикации в среднесортных российских журналах? А в настоящие журналы, так кто же туда пустит. Как говорится "съест то он съест, да кто же ему даст".

Вопрос: если иметь несколько публикаций во второсортных журналах + штук 10-15 вузовских конференций в РФ, это поднимет шансы на поступление?


Да, потому что у остальных аппликантов скорее всего этого не будет.
"We tell lies when we are afraid," said Morgenes. "But every time we tell a lie, the thing that we fear grows stronger."
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It is not the content of publications that matters but the evidence of research experience. This helps convince the admissions committee that you are serious about academic career.
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snetesin wrote:
олег2004 wrote:Добрый день!
Созрел следующие вопрос. Выпускникам каких специализаций Ph.D. in Business проще всего найти работу в академии при прочих равных?


The best bet is "well-defined" areas. For example, almost any business school has finance, accounting, marketing, management and operations departments. Other specializations become trickier. For example, few schools have information systems departments or decision processes departments. Hence, demand for IS and DP majors is volatile.

А как насчет работы в Industry (не академ.) после окончания PhD in IS?
Есть ли спрос? Есть есть, каков уровень стартовых зарплат?
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JohnnyB. wrote: А как насчет работы в Industry (не академ.) после окончания PhD in IS?
Есть ли спрос? Есть есть, каков уровень стартовых зарплат?


IS в смысле Computer Science или Management Information Systems?
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Cliff wrote:
JohnnyB. wrote: А как насчет работы в Industry (не академ.) после окончания PhD in IS?
Есть ли спрос? Есть есть, каков уровень стартовых зарплат?


IS в смысле Computer Science или Management Information Systems?

IS в смысле Ph.D. in Business. Information Systems,
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kuznechik wrote: Ну конечно же! нет такого понятия как PhD in Business.


А почему так уверенно? У моего мужа, например, Ph.D. in Business. Он, почему-то, маркетинг рекомендует для карьеры в академии, хоть это и не его спезиализация.

Я 7 лет назад поступила UCLA v Business school Ph.D. на information systems или decision science, не помню. Я в итоге не пошла, предпочла Computer Science. А в бизнес школу меня приняли хоть у меня и показаний не было. Простой русский политех и немного работы программером в России.
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