Земля в Мексике ?

Main_Coon · Post by **Main_Coon** » 14 Sep 2005 04:59

Народ, помогите сориентироваться. Знакомые купили участок в Мексике( там, кроме кактусов, ничего нет) и со страшнои силои упрашивают последовать их примеру. Вот я и призадумалась- ето как в анекдоте "Пусть и у соседа корова сдохнет", или же на самом деле выгодное дело?

Kalifornian · Post by **Kalifornian** » 14 Sep 2005 06:08

И мне интересно

кошмарик · Post by **кошмарик** » 14 Sep 2005 06:34

У нас друзья пару лет назад купили участок в Мексике ( недалеко от Канкуна) и построили на участке дом. Говорили что дом построить им стоило очень дешево. Пару лет ездили отдыхать в Мексику, а в прошлом году дом продали с огромной выгодой паре престарелых американцев. Сейчас опять купили землю в курортном местечке и занялись строительством. Из негатива- надо искать человека который бы жил бы в доме и присматривал за ним. Так же наши друзья очень переживали в сезон ураганов. Один раз им снесло крышу и были какие то проблемы со стаховкой. Но в любом случае овчинка стоит выделки. Если нужны подробности, могу в воскресение пораспрашивать поподробнее.

Main_Coon · Post by **Main_Coon** » 14 Sep 2005 06:38

кошмарик wrote:Если нужны подробности, могу в воскресение пораспрашивать поподробнее.

PLEASE .

ALBAT · Post by **ALBAT** » 14 Sep 2005 15:53

Смотря для чего вы эту землю покупать будете?
Если для типа дачи, то получится, что все отпуска будете проводить только в Мексике.
Если , чтобы построить дом и продать- то может быть выгодно, нужно сделать анализ.
Если в курортной зоне построить дом и потом сдавать- тоже плюс, но нужно будет находить, кто будет следить за домом, это дополнительные расходы, опять же нужно все просчитать.
А в принципе, если дешево- почему нет? Мексика близко, земля во все времена имела тенденцию увеличивать свою цену.
Удачи

xmaz · Post by **xmaz** » 14 Sep 2005 20:05

А я где-то читала, что в Мексике землю в частную собственость иностранцам не продают...

Komissar · Post by **Komissar** » 14 Sep 2005 21:36

скажем так, не всю землю разрешено продавать иностранцам. Лакомые кусочки и близко к океану - не дают. Хотя слышал, что в Мексике, как и на 1/6 - всегда можно "по-хорошему" договориться.

Glukozka · Post by **Glukozka** » 14 Sep 2005 21:58

xmaz wrote:А я где-то читала, что в Мексике землю в частную собственость иностранцам не продают...

Я тоже знаю что в аренду на 50 или на 100 лет можно взять, а купить нельзя

Glukozka · Post by **Glukozka** » 14 Sep 2005 22:02

CAN FOREIGNERS REALLY OWN PROPERTY IN MEXICO?
Yes, Americans and other foreigners may obtain direct ownership of property in the interior of Mexico. However, under Mexican law, foreigners cannot own property outright within the restricted zone. Instead, a real estate trust must be set up to hold title for the foreigner. Since foreigners are not able to enter into contracts in buy real estate, they must have a bank act on their behalf, much as a trust is use to hold property for minors because they also can not contract. The following is a brief outline of the law regarding such trust, known as "fideicomisos", but potential buyers should always get advice and have all real estate transactions overview by a licensed Mexican attorney.

Glukozka · Post by **Glukozka** » 14 Sep 2005 22:03

THE RESTRICTED ZONE AND "FIDEICOMISOS"
The law declares that the Mexican nation has original ownership to all land and water in Mexico, as well as minerals, salts, ore deposits, natural gas and oil; but that such ownership may be assigned to individuals.

The Mexican Constitution prohibits direct ownership of real estate by foreigners in what has come to be known as the "restricted zone." The restricted zone encompasses all land located within 100 kilometers (about 62 miles) of any Mexican border, and within 50 kilometers (about 31 miles) of any Mexican coastline. However, in order to permit foreign investment in these areas, the Mexican government created the "fideicomiso," (FEE-DAY-E-CO-ME-SO) which is, roughly translated, a real estate trust. Essentially, this type of trust is similar to trusts set up in the United States, but a Mexican bank must be designated as the trustee and, as such, has title to the property and is the owner of record. The Mexican Government created the "fideicomiso" to reconcile the problems involved in developing the restricted zone and to attract foreign capital. This enabled foreigners, as beneficiaries of the trusts, to enjoy unrestricted use of land located in the restricted zone without violating the law.

A "fideicomiso" is a trust agreement created for the benefit of a foreign buyer, executed between a Mexican bank and the seller of property in the restricted zone. Foreign buyers cannot own real estate in the restricted zone due to Constitutional restrictions. The bank acts on behalf of the foreign buyer, taking title to real property. The bank, as trustee, buys the property for the foreigner, then has a fiduciary obligation to follow instructions given by the foreigner who is the trust beneficiary. The trust beneficiary retains and enjoys all the rights of ownership while the bank holds title to the property. The foreigner is entitled to use, enjoy, and even sell the property that is held in trust at its market value to any eligible buyer.

In order to allow foreigners to enter into the agreement contained in the Calvo Clause, Mexico requires all foreigners to apply for and obtain a permit from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs prior to contracting to acquire real estate in Mexico. This is currently done by the trustee/bank at the time a real estate trust is set-up.

Given the changes made for 1997 in the foreign investment Law, and the fact that a buyer can now apply for and obtain a trust permit in a matter of days, it is always better to secure the trust permit from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs before entering into any contract.

The bank, as trustee, must get a permit from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to establish a real estate trust and acquire rights on real property located within the restricted zone. The purpose of the trust is to allow the trust's beneficiary the use and exploitation of the property without constituting real property rights. The beneficiaries of the trust (fideicomisarios) may be:
Mexican corporations with foreign investment
Foreign individuals or legal entities
The law defines "use" and "exploitation" as the right to use or possess the property, including its fruits, products, or any revenue that results from its operation and exploitation by third parties or from the bank/trustee.

The law does not clarify how trust permits will be issued. Article 14 of the law states that the Ministry shall decide on issuing the permits "...considering the economic and social benefit, which the realization of such operations imply for the nation." The basic criteria used to determine such benefits are likely to change somewhat with the publication of the new foreign investment regulations. However, it is reasonable to anticipate that some of the unwritten rules used by the Mexican government in the area of real estate trusts will be included in the new foreign investment regulations. It is also possible that some of the confusing elements will be eliminated. It is important to understand the application of the current regulations, even if they are going to be replaced, as well as some of the unwritten policies the government has used in the past, to better understand what criteria will be used by the Ministry in the future.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs must grant any petition for a trust permit that complies with the stipulated requirements within 5 working days following the date of its presentation to the Ministry's central office in Mexico City. It must be granted in 30 days if the application is submitted to one of the Ministry's state offices. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs must confirm the registration of any property acquired by foreign-owned Mexican corporations a maximum period of 15 days following the filing of the petition. In both cases, if the maximum period passes with no action by the Ministry, the trust permit or registration are considered authorized.

There is a common misconception among foreigners investing in Mexico that once the trust expires, the beneficiary loses all rights and benefits of the sale of the property held in trust. This is not the case. On the contrary, the beneficiary has a contractual right under the trust agreement with the Mexican bank to all benefits that may result from the use or sale of that property, even though he does not hold title to the property. Under Mexican Law, the bank, as trustee, has a fiduciary obligation to respect the rights of the beneficiary.

A real estate trust is not a lease. The beneficiary can instruct the bank to sell or lease the property at any time. The beneficiary can develop and use the property to his liking and benefit, within the provisions of the law. Generally, the law allows most activities engaged in by foreigners.

Komissar · Post by **Komissar** » 14 Sep 2005 22:06

в общем, я бы не связывался. Латинская Америка, наоборот, сейчас в США землю скупает, поскольку своим правителям и экономикам не верит.

Oscilloscope · Post by **Oscilloscope** » 15 Sep 2005 03:28

Komissar wrote:в общем, я бы не связывался. Латинская Америка, наоборот, сейчас в США землю скупает, поскольку своим правителям и экономикам не верит.

Э, Комисар, Вы и в Россию не верите. Знаете сколько бабла уже мимо прошло

Komissar · Post by **Komissar** » 15 Sep 2005 15:53

если уж на то пошло, то я в смысле инвестиций верю в Родину Нелегальных Иммигрантов больше, чем в Родину Слонов. Так что пусть тое бабло мимо проплывает, не жалко!