Александер wrote:... Скажут, что лоер виновен - придется поверить тоже.
"I guess the guy is going to be OK," Jay Leno said. "When the ambulance got there, out of force of habit they put Cheney on the stretcher. ... When people found out he shot a lawyer, his popularity is now at 92 percent."
Александер wrote:MaxSt., надо быть последовательным везде.
Вот я и говорю - на охоте всегда виноват тот кто стрелял. Куда уж последовательней.
Александер wrote:Я им верю. Сказали, что сбил старушку на пешеходном переходе и невиновен - я верю. Сказали, что обгон слева на скорости 150 наказуемо тех, кого обгоняешь - верю.
Да не верите вы на самом деле. Сейчас вы паясничаете просто.
Александер wrote:Скажут, что лоер виновен - придется поверить тоже.
А если серьезно? Давайте, скажите все честно и открыто.
MaxSt.
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
"The Daily Show With Jon Stewart" (Comedy Central)
A partial transcript:
Jon Stewart: "Yes, as you've just heard, a near-tragedy over the weekend in south Texas. Vice President Dick Cheney accidentally shot a man during a quail hunt at a political supporter's ranch. Making 78-year-old Harry Whittington the first person shot by a sitting VP since Alexander Hamilton.
"Hamilton, of course, shot in a duel with Aaron Burr over issues of honor, integrity and political maneuvering. Whittington? Mistaken for a bird.
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The other player in the drama? Ranch owner and eyewitness Katharine Armstrong.
Katharine Armstrong: "We were shooting a covey of quail. The vice president and two others got out of the car to walk up the covey."
Jon Stewart: "What kind of hunting story begins with getting out of your car? As I sighted the great beast before us, my shaking hands could barely engage the parking brake. Slowly, I turned off the A/C and silenced my sub-woofers…"
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Katharine Armstrong: "A bird flushed. The vice president took aim at the bird and shot and unfortunately, Mr. Whittington was in the line of fire and got peppered pretty well."
Jon Stewart: "Peppered. There you have it. Harry Whittington, seasoned to within an inch of his life.
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Jon Stewart: "I'm joined now by our own vice-presidential firearms mishap analyst, Rob Corddry. Rob, obviously a very unfortunate situation. How is the vice president handling it?
Rob Corddry: "Jon, tonight the vice president is standing by his decision to shoot Harry Wittington. According to the best intelligence available, there were quail hidden in the brush. Everyone believed at the time there were quail in the brush.
"And while the quail turned out to be a 78-year-old man, even knowing that today, Mr. Cheney insists he still would have shot Mr. Whittington in the face. He believes the world is a better place for his spreading buckshot throughout the entire region of Mr. Whittington's face."
Jon Stewart: "But why, Rob? If he had known Mr. Whittington was not a bird, why would he still have shot him?"
Rob Corddry: "Jon, in a post-9-11 world, the American people expect their leaders to be decisive. To not have shot his friend in the face would have sent a message to the quail that America is weak."
Jon Stewart: "That's horrible."
Rob Corddry: "Look, the mere fact that we're even talking about how the vice president drives up with his rich friends in cars to shoot farm-raised wingless quail-tards is letting the quail know 'how' we're hunting them. I'm sure right now those birds are laughing at us in that little 'covey' of theirs.
Jon Stewart: "I'm not sure birds can laugh, Rob."
Rob Corddry: "Well, whatever it is they do … coo .. they're cooing at us right now, Jon, because here we are talking openly about our plans to hunt them. Jig is up. Quails one, America zero.
Jon Stewart: "Okay, well, on a purely human level, is the vice president at least sorry?"
Rob Corddry: "Jon, what difference does it make? The bullets are already in this man's face. Let's move forward across party lines as a people … to get him some sort of mask."
Мы бьемся насмерть во вторник за среду, но не понимаем уже четверга...
MaxSt wrote:Jon Stewart - Жаль, что в России таких нет.
Александер wrote:Sorry MaxSt, видимо я еще не созрел до дискуссиии с Вами.
1) Что значит созрел/не созрел? Назовите вещи своими именами, вот и все что от вас требуется. 2) В чем проблема? MaxSt.
Созрел/несозрел значит что я снова( в который раз) не пониаю смысла написанных вами фраз. Напрочь не понимаю.
Повторяю специяльно для Вас по пунктам.
а. Если вас не было на месте события
то
в. следует верить или не верить решению суда или рапортам органов дознания.
Вот и все.
Я верю.
Скажите, что Вам тут не понятно и каких еще имена вам надо назвать?
Единственный практический вопрос: что делать дальше?