Uvazhaemie kollegi mediki!
Moy vopros budet obraschen k tem, kto poluchil srednee medicinskoe obrazovanie v stranah bivshego CCCP, i seychas prodalzhaet svou professional'nuu deyatel'nost' sdes' v US.
Odin iz moih blizkih druzey zakonchil Medicinskoe Uchilische na Ukraine i imeet diplom Feldshera. K sozhaleniy kudabi on ne oraschalsya v otnoshenii svoey special'nosti, nikto (dazhe Foreign Credentials Evaluation Service) nemozhet dat' pravel'nuu ocenku ego diplomu i podskazat' kem i kak on mozhet stat' ili bit' sdes' v US.
Ya sam vrach, i s nami vrachami vse vrodebi chetko yasno i ponyatno. Drugimi slovami, golovnoy boli net, nu mozhet krome ekzamenov i residenturi, a kak bit' emu???? Vrodebi medicinskoy sestroy ne nazovesh (overqualified), do vracha ostalos' 5 minut, no nazvat'poka vrachem stremno. Tak kak emu bit'? Mozhet on ekvivalent k Physician Assistant. Esli u kogo est' kakaya nibud' ideya, ili mozhet podelitsya svoim opitom, to budu ochen' rad!
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фельдшер - после сдачи квалификационных экзаменов приравнивается к парамедику... Но с этим сложно, т.к. парамедики - 4летний колледжный курс с очень большим к-вом часов по практике... Нужно смотреть программы разных колледжей и обязательно выпросить в училище развернутые программы курсов (syllabus)- не просто почасовку...
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Kysaya --- Sposibo za Vash otvet.
Kak raz vse chto Vi opisali, on uzhe imeet vkluchaya license paramedica. 2 goda otrabotal sdes' v US na ambulance service.
Neuzheli amerikanskiy paramedic mozhet sravnitsya s nashim feldsherom ? [img:87efc939b2]http://www.privet.com/ubb/frown.gif[/img:87efc939b2]
Ya horosho oznakomlen s programmoy klinicheskogo obucheniya nashih feldsherov, rabotal s nimi pleche k plechu, znau na chto oni sposobni i uroven' ih podgotovki. Nedumau chto amerikanskiy paramedic znaet i umeet stol'ko, skol'ko nash feldsher [img:87efc939b2]http://www.privet.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img:87efc939b2]
Sdes' v US est' takaya special'nost' Physician Assistant. Pochemu fieldsher ne yavlyaetsya imenno im ? Ved' programmi professional'nogo obucheniya u nih odinakovi.
Kak raz vse chto Vi opisali, on uzhe imeet vkluchaya license paramedica. 2 goda otrabotal sdes' v US na ambulance service.
Neuzheli amerikanskiy paramedic mozhet sravnitsya s nashim feldsherom ? [img:87efc939b2]http://www.privet.com/ubb/frown.gif[/img:87efc939b2]
Ya horosho oznakomlen s programmoy klinicheskogo obucheniya nashih feldsherov, rabotal s nimi pleche k plechu, znau na chto oni sposobni i uroven' ih podgotovki. Nedumau chto amerikanskiy paramedic znaet i umeet stol'ko, skol'ko nash feldsher [img:87efc939b2]http://www.privet.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img:87efc939b2]
Sdes' v US est' takaya special'nost' Physician Assistant. Pochemu fieldsher ne yavlyaetsya imenno im ? Ved' programmi professional'nogo obucheniya u nih odinakovi.
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Ya slishal, chto diplom fel'dshera perevodyat kak diplom medsestri (RN), i eto prokativaet (v NY po krainei mere).
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V otnoshenii RN, mi tozhe uznavali i dazhe v proshlom godu podavali v California Board of Registered Nursing. Oni tam uzhe poumneli [img:2b2b83255b]http://www.privet.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img:2b2b83255b]
Im, po moymu, uzhe dolazhili kto takoy feldsher [img:2b2b83255b]http://www.privet.com/ubb/frown.gif[/img:2b2b83255b] Oni srazu raskusili ego diplom i prislali pis'mo chto on Overqualifyed i ego educational credentials bol'she podhodyat kak medical, chem nursing [img:2b2b83255b]http://www.privet.com/ubb/frown.gif[/img:2b2b83255b]. Porekomendovali oraschatsya v medicinskie shkoli. Vot tak vot. Hotya Vi pravi. Do 1998 goda RN Board prinimal nashih felsherov, takzhe spokoyno i bezboleznenno, kak medicnskih sester. K sozhaleniu on pozno ob etom uznal. [img:2b2b83255b]http://www.privet.com/ubb/frown.gif[/img:2b2b83255b]
Im, po moymu, uzhe dolazhili kto takoy feldsher [img:2b2b83255b]http://www.privet.com/ubb/frown.gif[/img:2b2b83255b] Oni srazu raskusili ego diplom i prislali pis'mo chto on Overqualifyed i ego educational credentials bol'she podhodyat kak medical, chem nursing [img:2b2b83255b]http://www.privet.com/ubb/frown.gif[/img:2b2b83255b]. Porekomendovali oraschatsya v medicinskie shkoli. Vot tak vot. Hotya Vi pravi. Do 1998 goda RN Board prinimal nashih felsherov, takzhe spokoyno i bezboleznenno, kak medicnskih sester. K sozhaleniu on pozno ob etom uznal. [img:2b2b83255b]http://www.privet.com/ubb/frown.gif[/img:2b2b83255b]
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Ilusha - Esche ras Vam sposibo za sovet.
K sozhaleniu World Education Service, a takzhe Logos International, a takzhe International Consultant of Delaver, a takzhe mnogie drugie podobnie organizacii zanimauschiesya voprosami foreign academic credentials evaluation, bol'she ne evaluiruut diplom feldshera kak RN [img:7a10603d74]http://www.privet.com/ubb/frown.gif[/img:7a10603d74] K bol'shomu sozhaleniu. [img:7a10603d74]http://www.privet.com/ubb/frown.gif[/img:7a10603d74] V otnoshenii drugogo RN Board, on podaval v Pennsylvania RN Board - Rezul'tat tot zhe. Bolee togo, on dolzhen bil sdat' predvoritel'niy examen v takoy organizacii kak Committion on Foreign Nursing Schools. Eta organizaciya, ya bi nazval ee, prosto fashistskoy [img:7a10603d74]http://www.privet.com/ubb/frown.gif[/img:7a10603d74] i o diplome feldshera oni prosto nehotyat nichego slishat'. U nih est' svoy department kotoriy zanimaetsya voprosami Nursing Educational Credentials Evaluation. Ya dazhe znau, chto tam rabotaut Russko-govoryaschie " specialisti " v oblasti ocenki innostrannih obrazovatel'nih dokumentov. Vot oni to vse i reshili sud'bu nashego feldshera [img:7a10603d74]http://www.privet.com/ubb/frown.gif[/img:7a10603d74]
K sozhaleniu World Education Service, a takzhe Logos International, a takzhe International Consultant of Delaver, a takzhe mnogie drugie podobnie organizacii zanimauschiesya voprosami foreign academic credentials evaluation, bol'she ne evaluiruut diplom feldshera kak RN [img:7a10603d74]http://www.privet.com/ubb/frown.gif[/img:7a10603d74] K bol'shomu sozhaleniu. [img:7a10603d74]http://www.privet.com/ubb/frown.gif[/img:7a10603d74] V otnoshenii drugogo RN Board, on podaval v Pennsylvania RN Board - Rezul'tat tot zhe. Bolee togo, on dolzhen bil sdat' predvoritel'niy examen v takoy organizacii kak Committion on Foreign Nursing Schools. Eta organizaciya, ya bi nazval ee, prosto fashistskoy [img:7a10603d74]http://www.privet.com/ubb/frown.gif[/img:7a10603d74] i o diplome feldshera oni prosto nehotyat nichego slishat'. U nih est' svoy department kotoriy zanimaetsya voprosami Nursing Educational Credentials Evaluation. Ya dazhe znau, chto tam rabotaut Russko-govoryaschie " specialisti " v oblasti ocenki innostrannih obrazovatel'nih dokumentov. Vot oni to vse i reshili sud'bu nashego feldshera [img:7a10603d74]http://www.privet.com/ubb/frown.gif[/img:7a10603d74]
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Naskol'ko mne izvestno, v Board of Nursing v chisle prochego, neobxodimo podat' notarial'no zaverenni perevod diploma. A vot diplom nado bilo perevesti sootvetstvyuschim obrazom, ved' eto zdorovo, chto overqualify, znachit chasov/predmetov bolee chem dostatochno dlya RN's trebovanii? A esli yzh sovsem vse delat' chtobi ne prikopalis' i on soglasen byt' RN, to sovetyu obratit'sya v odny iz organizatsii (oni recognized by NY Board Board of RN):
World Education Services.
ph# 1-800-937-3895, and 1-800-755-5775.
Fax# 212-966-6395.
E-mail info@wes.org , site: www.wes.org
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Evaluation Service,
ph# is 518-672-4522 (eto v Albany)
s pros'boi ob evaluation diploma. No ne prosto evaluation, a chtobi ykazali kakix chasov/predmetov ne xvataet dlya ydovletvoreniya trebovanii na RN. Esli chego bydet ne xvatat', to mozhno doychit'sya.
A esche variant -- podat' dok-ti v Board of RN drygogo shtata (ne CA), gde esche ne poymneli.
World Education Services.
ph# 1-800-937-3895, and 1-800-755-5775.
Fax# 212-966-6395.
E-mail info@wes.org , site: www.wes.org
ili
Evaluation Service,
ph# is 518-672-4522 (eto v Albany)
s pros'boi ob evaluation diploma. No ne prosto evaluation, a chtobi ykazali kakix chasov/predmetov ne xvataet dlya ydovletvoreniya trebovanii na RN. Esli chego bydet ne xvatat', to mozhno doychit'sya.
A esche variant -- podat' dok-ti v Board of RN drygogo shtata (ne CA), gde esche ne poymneli.
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Esche variant:
Podat' diplom v board of LVN (Licensed Vocational Nurse), yroven' konechno nizhe chem RN.
Dymau, est' esche pary variantov, no eto dlinnaya istoriya, poetomy vopros:
Kak s vami mozhno svyazat'sya?
Podat' diplom v board of LVN (Licensed Vocational Nurse), yroven' konechno nizhe chem RN.
Dymau, est' esche pary variantov, no eto dlinnaya istoriya, poetomy vopros:
Kak s vami mozhno svyazat'sya?
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Sposibo za Vashi otveti Ilusha!
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V otnoshenii LVN. Est' sdes' takoy variant, no on kategoricheski nehochet, i ne videt dlya sebya smisla. On Paramedicom na ambulance zarabatival bol'she chem LVN v gospitale.
Thanks again anyway!
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V otnoshenii LVN. Est' sdes' takoy variant, no on kategoricheski nehochet, i ne videt dlya sebya smisla. On Paramedicom na ambulance zarabatival bol'she chem LVN v gospitale.
Thanks again anyway!
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