chto sdelat' chtobi priznali diplom medsestri?

IgorKy · Post by **IgorKy** » 20 Jul 2000 14:28

Privetstvuu!
Menia interesuet vopros chto neobhodimo predpriniat' chto be po diplomu medsestri rossiskogo obrazca poluchit' rabotu v USA
Kakie testi dlia etogo nugno sdavat'?

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DigitalMind · Post by **DigitalMind** » 24 Jul 2000 15:41

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gvs · Post by **gvs** » 24 Jul 2000 16:22

А возможно ли человеку с российким дипломом врача пойти в медсестры?

DigitalMind · Post by **DigitalMind** » 24 Jul 2000 16:34

To: gvs
Na skol'ko lichno ya znau, to seychas uzhe net. Esche goda 2-3 tomu nazad mozhno bilo. Znau lichno paru takih sluchaev. Kak seychas, to navryadle [img:c36002b1d2]http://www.privet.com/ubb/frown.gif[/img:c36002b1d2] Esli oni nehotyat bratsya za diplom Feldshera (govorya chto on "Overqualified to be RN"), to pro diplom vracha ya uzhe molchu [img:c36002b1d2]http://www.privet.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img:c36002b1d2]

Ya bi Vam posovetival obratitsya v takuu organizacii kak [b:c36002b1d2]International Council on Nurses[/b:c36002b1d2]ili [b:c36002b1d2]National Council of State Boards of Nursing, Inc.[/b:c36002b1d2]. Oni Vam dadut tochnuu informaciu po etomu voprosu.

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gvs · Post by **gvs** » 24 Jul 2000 16:53

Спасибо, будем смотреть. А может (ну вдруг [img:91e65bea15]http://www.privet.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img:91e65bea15] ) Вы знаете какие-то варианты для физиотерапевтов? Им вроде полегче стать, чем physician. Пытаемся выработать генеральный план для жены.

DigitalMind · Post by **DigitalMind** » 24 Jul 2000 17:01

To gvs
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DigitalMind · Post by **DigitalMind** » 24 Jul 2000 21:43

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by IgorKy:
[i:f5b2b41986]Privetstvuu!
Menia interesuet vopros chto neobhodimo predpriniat' chto be po diplomu medsestri rossiskogo obrazca poluchit' rabotu v USA
Kakie testi dlia etogo nugno sdavat'?[/i:f5b2b41986]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

To: IgorKy
Ya s samogo nachala nevnimatel'no prochel Vash post. Vi sprosili sleduuschee: [b:f5b2b41986]"chto neobhodimo predpriniat' chto be po diplomu medsestri rossiskogo obrazca poluchit' rabotu v USA[/b:f5b2b41986] Ya dumau, chto v pervuu ochered' Vam nuzhno zhit' sdes' (v USA), a potom uzhe zanimatsya vsem vizhe perechislennim. Sdacha Licensure Examination i poluchenii samogo RN License esche ne garantiruet poluchenii samoy raboti dlya innostranca. Chesno skazat', ya nerazu ne slishal, chto bi amerikanskie gospitalya priglashali ne raboti medicinskih sester iz drugih stran (kak na primer programmistov po H1B). Kazhdiy god amerikanskie school of nursing vipuskaut sotni-tisyach diplomirovannih RN. To est' vobschemto nedostatok so srednim medicinskim personalom ne nabludaetsya. Mozhet bit' ya ne pav, i naydetsya ktoto, kto budet menya osparivat', no ya govoru to chto znau ya, i to, schem ya sam lichno sdes' stalkivasya. Tak chto zaprishivayte v pervuu ochered' immigracionnie organizacii i sluzgbi. Oni Vam dadut tochniy otvet.
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IgorKy · Post by **IgorKy** » 24 Jul 2000 23:32

Spasibo za otvet.....ia v etot razdel ne zagliadival davno....poterial nade#du poluchit' otvet.....
Situacia takova chto esli povezet proiti interviu po DV2001, to mi vidimo budem USA.
No! Moia #ena vrach ....- Gynecologist(zabil kak akusher po angliisky) chto bi stat' vrachem ona dol#na sdat' tri testa zaimet vse eto ia dumau goda 2 + 2 goda chto to podobnoe ordinature(izviniaus' ia ne bol'shoi specialist v etoi oblasti).
Seichas ia rassmatrivau vozmo#nost' poluchenia moei #enoi medsestrinskogo obrazovania e#e ne proboval nicuda obraschat'sia no dumau chto nu#no budet perezachest' predmeti...
kak v Usa budut smotret' na vracha i medsestru v odnom lice???
o vrachebnom diplome mo#no vremenno ne govorit'?

DigitalMind · Post by **DigitalMind** » 25 Jul 2000 15:57

To: IgorKy

Smotret' na nee budut s udivleniem [img:cf72ed4e26]http://www.privet.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img:cf72ed4e26] . Pochemu s udivleniem, potomuchto v US i vo mnogih drugih stranah Medicine i Nursing eto dva raznih napravleniya v Health Care, kotorie tol'ko peresikautsya mezhdu soboy na urovne bol'nogo. Medicina imeet svoi zadachi, podhodi i methodi, a Nursing imeet svoi sobstvenie. Po etmomu v US dazhe esli chelovek i imeet diplom RN i dazhe imeet stepen' kak Bachelor Degree, vseravno on dolzhen vernutsya v college, vzyat' programu Pre-Med, potom sdat' examen MCAT i tol'ko posle etogo smozhet postupit' v Medical School. Tak chto diplom RN nikakogo sdes' ne imeet znacheniya dlya togo, chto bi stat' vrachem (MD). Ya bi porekomendoval Vam predtavit' ee vrachebniy diplom kak diplom Graduate Nurse [b:cf72ed4e26](Master Degree in Nursing)[/b:cf72ed4e26]. Esli oni eto skushaut, zhachit povezlo, a esli net, togda vrachebniy diplom nuzhno budet iskluchit' iz vashih planov stat' RN.
Drugimi slovami, nuzhno budet pokazivat' tol'ko diplom medsestri.

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IgorKy · Post by **IgorKy** » 25 Jul 2000 16:09

otlichno!
Znachit budet normal'no esli ona diplom vracha ne poka#et a vremenno porabotaet medsestroi do sdachi medicinskih testov?
...da i e#e vopros. Eto real'no podgotovitsia k testu na poluchenie licenzii v rossii? chtobi po priezdu srazu sdat' i poprobovat' naiti rabotu?

Thanks!

Igor

DigitalMind · Post by **DigitalMind** » 25 Jul 2000 18:15

Nu gotovitsya k examenam ona mozhet gde ugodno. Chesno skazat', ya ne vsovsem ponyal vopros. [img:52249f50da]http://www.privet.com/ubb/frown.gif[/img:52249f50da] Gotovitsya k examenam, eto ne vazhno gde. Vazhno opredelitsya gde ona budet ih zdavat' i kogda. Ya slishal, chto mnogie vrachi zhivuschie v Rassii i na Ukraine edut v Warshavu (Pol'shu) chtobi sdavat' na Americanskiy Medicnskiy Board. V otnoshenii medsesterskih examenov, ya tochno nezanu, no slishal ot drugih, chto vrodebi v Evrope est' tozhe centri gde sdaut NCLEX-RN. Ya bi vsetaki posovetival Vam poslat' e-mail s voprosami v te organizacii kotorie ya ukazival vishe. Ya uveren, chto Vi ot nih smozhete poluchit' bolee dostovernuu informaciu. Prochtite esche ras moi prediduschie otveti.

S Uvazheniem,
DigitalMind

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DigitalMind · Post by **DigitalMind** » 25 Jul 2000 19:30

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IgorKy · Post by **IgorKy** » 25 Jul 2000 23:01

Spasibo bol'shoe za pomo#'