Ах, Гавайи - райский уголок

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Ах, Гавайи - райский уголок

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Предлагаю новый топик. Как аннексировали Гавайи. Мне кажется очень интересная получится тема.
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Давайте уж сразу крестовые походы, что мелочиться?
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В другой теме можно и про крестовые. Интересно тоже. А то все говорят какая мирная и добрая религия христианство.
Мне просто вспомнилась информация из музея в Гонолулу.
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Не, подход правильный. А в споре с собеседником лучше всего сразу вспомнить, как в два года он обмочил штаны. Потому что нам может сказать разумного человек, мочащийся в штаны?
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EBA wrote: Мне просто вспомнилась информация из музея в Гонолулу.
это была самая первая оранжевая революция организованная США.
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Teh Instructor wrote:
EBA wrote: Мне просто вспомнилась информация из музея в Гонолулу.
это была самая первая оранжевая революция организованная США.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaii#Ann ... .931959.29

After William McKinley won the presidential election in 1896, Hawaii's annexation to the U.S. was again discussed. The previous president, Grover Cleveland, was a friend of Queen Liliʻuokalani. McKinley was open to persuasion by U.S. expansionists and by annexationists from Hawaii. He met with three annexationists from Hawaii: Lorrin Thurston, Francis March Hatch and William Ansel Kinney. After negotiations, in June 1897, Secretary of State John Sherman agreed to a treaty of annexation with these representatives of the Republic of Hawaii.
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In 1900, Hawaii was granted self-governance and retained ʻIolani Palace as the territorial capitol building. Despite several attempts to become a state, Hawaii remained a territory for sixty years.
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In the 1950s the power of the plantation owners was finally broken by descendants of immigrant laborers. Because they were born in a U.S. territory, they were legal U.S. citizens. The Hawaii Republican Party, strongly supported by plantation owners, was voted out of office. The Democratic Party of Hawaii dominated politics for 40 years. Eager to gain full voting rights, Hawaii's residents actively campaigned for statehood. In March 1959, Congress passed the Hawaii Admission Act and U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower signed it into law. On June 27 of that year, a referendum asked residents of Hawaii to vote on the statehood bill. The Hawaii electorate voted 94.3% "yes for statehood" to 5.7% "no"
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А вот то, что сейчас происходит на Гавайях (кроме отпусков и курортов в райском местечке).

http://watchdog.org/126282/referendum-r ... nitiative/
January 29, 2014

Hawaii’s House and Senate minority is also pushing for a referendum process, so popular measures can appear on the ballot after a voter petition drive.

“We agree wholeheartedly on referendum to allow people to vote on key fiscal and social issues,” Slom said. “For too long now, people have assumed we have all the answers in this building, although our voting record shows we certainly do not. We can use their help. We believe initiative and referendum will spur more interest, voting and participation.”
Co-founder Mike Palcic noted the Hawaii Constitution states that “all political power of this State is inherent in the people.”

People have the responsibility and possess the power to influence the direction of governance. Legislators should allow room for constitutionally mandated public decision making,” he said.
“Every other state in the union has at least one of the following: recall, referendum, initiative or term limits. Many states have multiples. Hawaii has none,” Palcic said. “If the people of Hawaii vote to empower themselves to recall an elected official, to initiate or revoke laws on their own, or to limit the terms of service of government officials, the Legislature should not stand in the way.”
Похоже пора вводить более жесткие санкции против России. :mrgreen:

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