А как в Америке дарят цветы?

romanr · Post by **romanr** » 03 Jun 1999 18:56

Я имею в виду, есть ли здесь какие-нибудь условности типа российской, что в букете должно быть обязательно нечетное количество цветов? Или, может, какие-нибудь цветы принято дарить только по какому-то специальному поводу? Или букет должен быть как-нибудь специально оформлен? Или что-нибудь еще?

Пожалуйста, если будете упоминать названия цветов, то по возможности на обоих языках.

Спасибо.

KN · Post by KN » 03 Jun 1999 19:29

Flowers are usually given in even numbers (in contrast with russian uneven numbers) - dozen, half a dozen, 4, 8. It is always fun to explain in a flowershop why you need an uneven number - all bouquets are arranged by dozen/half dozen already - whenever you are given flowers to russians.

Be careful with flowers -they are a bit of special occasion thing here, so go for "mixed bouquet" unless occasion is really special and half a dozen of roses is called in action. People are somewhat confused by the russian habit to give roses to everyone all the time. For example, if you are coming to someone's house for the first time, you may bring a mixed bouquet but a half dozen of roses (which might even cost the same) would be slightly an overkill and might look like "too much"). When it is a birthday of the hostess however, roses would be more appropriate.

Also, giving potted flowers - blooming geraniums or blooming camelias or blooming cyclamen in the pot is as appropriate as giving cut flowers (in bouquets) and some people even prefer it.

Banned_for_ad · Post by **Banned_for_ad** » 04 Jun 1999 03:30

I agree with KN -- it all depends on the occasion. I think potted plants are used as presents very often. They are practical too -- they do not wilt in 2 days, they live much longer. So for homewarming parties/other kinds of parties a potted plant/mixed bouquet is very appropriate.

On the other hand, for Valentine's Day or a birthday it is very nice to give roses.

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6 · Post by 6 » 04 Jun 1999 18:19

There is also a nice tradition of sending floweres - usually when you cannot attend an important event, or want to congratulate a person who is far away (Mother's Day, Valentine Day, 'private' holidays like an wedding anniversary). Sending flowers is common as 'forgive me' gesture or just to do smth nice for your 'special one'. Be careful, however, about the address you send them to - to the offic or home one. This really depend on how the office atmoshpere, so if you are not sure - home address is preferable.
Also, it is a good move to send flowers or food/fruit baskets to friends/colleagues who lost their relatives (especially if you cannot attend the funeral or whatever ceremoy the family arranges).
It is alswyas appropriate to ask the florists if you are not sure what arrangement would appropriate (even if you do not follow their recommendation or go to a supermarket to buy the same kind of flowers cheaper).
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SK · Post by SK » 04 Jun 1999 18:46

When our boss lost her grandmother, our team got a full-size potted tree for her office. A bonsai is also very appropriate for such occasions.
Flowers and food gifts are usually accompanied by a card. A card is a must if you are sending the gift and not carrying it yourself.

SK

Chaq · Post by **Chaq** » 09 Jun 1999 22:35

To All english writers

Ну чего понты то колотить, неужели ломает написать по русски, всем ведь интересно ,даже тем у кого напряг с английским!!!

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KN · Post by KN » 09 Jun 1999 22:54

"Lomaet", kak Vy vyrazilis', v translite pisat' i komp'uter rusifitsirovat'. Dly teh' kto zdes', angliiskii-russkii vopros ne aktualen, a dlya teh kto tam - pozhalyi angliiski poleznee. Ne so zla po angliiski pishu - udobnee mne tak (bez rusifitsirovannogo komputera i pri svobodnom vladenii yazykom). Pushkin v pismah chasto na frantsuzskii perehodil - i tozhe ne iz nizmennyh pobuzhdenii uslozhnit' zhisn' potomkam [img:1deffe8cb3]http://www.privet.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img:1deffe8cb3].

A74 · Post by **A74** » 21 Jun 1999 21:13

у меня то же компьютер не русифицирован : http://www.privet.com/decoder/privet.html

KN · Post by KN » 21 Jun 1999 21:31

Vzglyanite v tekst predlozheniya: "Lomaet" v TRANSLITE pisat' ...etc
Tak chto decoder dlya menya ne vyhod [img:2c7bd1d774]http://www.privet.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img:2c7bd1d774]

maxic · Post by **maxic** » 21 Jun 1999 21:36

А вот интересно узнать, какие в наши дни есть причины нерусифицированности компьютера? Или классический вариант unix shell/злобный админ до сих пор широко распространен?

Chaq · Post by **Chaq** » 21 Jun 1999 21:46

to KN
А я предполагал что, люди пишущие сюда, прежде всего хотят чтобы информация дошла до всех, не только для тех у кого с английским все путем.
А если это ответ на конкретный вопрос конкретному человеку, можно было бы бросить
мылом, а не в топик.
Сорри если заблуждаюсь.

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KN · Post by KN » 21 Jun 1999 22:49

To Maxic: deistvitel'no rasprostranen [img:6984f2e3e8]http://www.privet.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img:6984f2e3e8] (unix sheel + admin)

To Chaq: ya vse-taki priderzhivays' togo chto angliiskii polezen [img:6984f2e3e8]http://www.privet.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img:6984f2e3e8], a poskol'ku informatsiya vydaetsya DOBROVOL'NO, to vydaetsya ona v naibolee udobnoi dlya istochnika [img:6984f2e3e8]http://www.privet.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img:6984f2e3e8] forme. Povtorus': ne so zla, ne iz discriminatsionnyh pobyzhdenii otseyat' ne angloyazuchnuy publicu a prosto "mne tak udobnee..." [img:6984f2e3e8]http://www.privet.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img:6984f2e3e8]

A voobshe, vse nachinalos' tsvetami, a zakanchvaetsya chem-to pohozhim na upreki - zhiznennaya parallel [img:6984f2e3e8]http://www.privet.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img:6984f2e3e8]

Ne serdites' - nikogo obizat' ne hochy!

Chaq · Post by **Chaq** » 21 Jun 1999 23:26

to KN
Ну что Вы, никаких упреков:-))).
Английский полезен, кто бы спорил, реч ведь не об этом.
Я по английски читаю, но ведь есть кто и нет, за державу обидно:-)).

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Nataly · Post by **Nataly** » 23 Jun 1999 12:34

To maxic:

>А вот интересно узнать, какие в наши дни есть причины нерусифицированности компьютера? Или классический вариант unix shell/злобный админ до сих пор широко распространен?

Nu ne vsem poschastlivilos' pod Windami rabotat' :-). Da u menja SunSparc station Unix i delo ne v zlobnom admine, a v klave. Ja za god smenila 3 kompa i u kazhdogo svoja klava i vse predstav'te raznye (Angli'skaja, Norvezhskaja s lishnimi 3 bukvami, s 'Alt Graph' i bez) , nu i chto mne teper' kazhdy' raz zanovo peremapirovat' raskladku klaviatury...? Da i eshe pro perekodirovshik, on pod Netscape ne rabotaet.

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